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Author Topic:   Intelligent Design just a question for evolutionists
Genomicus
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Message 115 of 146 (793641)
11-02-2016 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Percy
11-02-2016 9:08 PM


Re: Life Looks Engineered
Well we're just on the edge of our seats - what is it about the relationship between atomic theory and the molecular surfaces of nanometer-sized machine components that says ATP is a machine?

No, my comment about atomic theory was in response to Taq's apparent surprise that the surfaces of molecular machine components are ball-and-stick-ish. Like duh, what did he/she/it expect? We're dealing with the nano-meter scale here.

ATP isn't a machine, by the way. ATP is a molecule. ATP synthases are machines, however. If you dispute that, then you're more than welcome to cite a single scientific paper that argues that ATP synthases aren't machines. Go ahead. I'll be here writing up other responses while you do that little exercise.


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Genomicus
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Message 116 of 146 (793642)
11-02-2016 9:19 PM
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11-02-2016 9:08 PM


Re: Life Looks Engineered
Your claim to have merely an interesting hypothesis is properly tentative since you offer nothing more than analogy and declarations that some complex molecules "look like" machines...

More specifically, these molecular systems are machines. They don't just "look like" machines. But who knows? Maybe you've got publications out there in the scientific literature that argue that ATP synthases and other protein systems aren't actual machines.

Edited by Genomicus, : No reason given.


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Genomicus
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Message 118 of 146 (793648)
11-02-2016 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by Dr Adequate
11-02-2016 10:16 PM


Re: Life Looks Engineered
I say that they're not machines. They're actually musical instruments in the woodwind family. Prove me wrong, find a single scientific paper that argues that they aren't.

Oh my gawd. It must be embarrassing to make that kind of argument. Literally every scientific paper that describes the form and function of ATP synthases is an argument against the thesis that they're musical instruments in the woodwind family.

Geez.


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