in my opinion, it's the thin edge of the wedge. Did you see the article about the pregnant man? Will we make this a constitutional right for all gay men to have womb transplants?? Seriously it's like 3 years away.
note the assumption you have made that I am gay. Is there a particular reason you have ascribed a sexual orientation to me? I know I haven't mentioned it. And note, I am still not mentioning it even now. Rest assured that you don't know me from Adam and such assumptions you make are simply that.
I have made no such assumptions. But rest assured that if you were attacked by real bigots up on Capitol Hill in Seattle—the designated gay haunt—I would bust my knuckles to protect you. I'm not out to do anything to gays except keep their "marriages" out of the law. Neither one of us has moral authority over the other on this issue. And neither one of us should be accusing the other of bigotry. We are only debating opinions here. And my opinion seems to have the weight of consensus, for whatever that's worth.
You should have such a "bigot" as me to be your adversary. Would a bigot punch out a skinhead to save a queer? I've already pushed one skinhead up against the wall in Pioneer Square for pissing on a homeless person.
Am I the kind of bigot you despise just because I oppose "gay marriage"?
If marriage was a test from god that led to the outbreak of aids, than why was homosexuality around a very long time before aids and why is it that aids should affect all sexual preferences? If this is a god designed virus to punish what christians believe to be immoral conduct than it should be punishing only those committing the act. After all, god(according to the bible) has caused other plagues to only affect those who god deemed worth punishing, while leaving others unaffected. IMO these types of statements are only for the purpose of justifying a prejudice.
Andy catches his flies with vinegar, rather than honey
Be gay if you want, but know that you're going to hell.
Believe what you want about the ultimate disposition of gays if you want, but know that there are more constructive ways of getting your point across.
Or did you think homosexuals were going to come running to Jesus this way?
“I know where I am and who I am. I'm on the brink of disillusionment, on the eve of bitter sweet. I'm perpetually one step away from either collapse or rebirth. I am exactly where I need to be. Either way I go towards rebirth, for a total collapse often brings a rebirth." -Andrew Jaramillo
An internet troll is someone that intentionally says things to cause dissension. What I am saying is that this Andy fellow may not actually believe any of the hateful statements he's made. He may have said it just to be a jerk for the sake of being a jerk. Does that make sense? In which case, don't take it personally.
Oh yes. Actualy the confusion was the fact that my name is Andy as well :laugh: . However if AGL does indeed hold true to his statements. I would like to discuss what I see as fallacious in a Christian world view such as that. Or anyones world veiw, in the matter of why we would/ should discriminate against a certain set of peoples.
You are aware that it is the lawmakers that make the laws concerning marriage right? Thus the legal definition of marriage is whatever the law says. If your constitution gives equal protection to all citizens, then you must change the laws to fir the constitution.
Then the definition of marriage will include same sex, just like it now includes different skin tones.
Then gay marriage will be a part of marriage(TM)
You sound as if the definition of a marriage is immutable.